Paul Schebesta (100, p. 87) has described how one night in central Malaya in a forest encampment he awoke during a violent storm to find the Semang, a nomadic Negrito people with whom he was living, terrified and in turmoil. As the thunder crashed overhead a Semang woman agitatedly stabbed at her shin with a piece of bamboo until the blood poured from it. A little of this blood, mixed with rain water, she then sprinkled on the earth; the rest she scattered toward the skies as, in a fearful voice, she pleaded with the storm to have done.

This sacrificial act, in which blood taken from the leg is offered to a thunder-god in expiation of sin, is, as Rodney Needham, a social anthropologist, has recently pointed out in a stimulating paper (89), also found among an entirely distinct nomadic people in Borneo, the Penan. Associated elements include strict taboos against the burning of leeches and the mockery of certain animals, acts which, it is said, bring down the revengeful fury o





Does your room really have a view,
Or even a window to look through?
All I want is for you to look inside of you.
Don't be afraid to walk through the door.
Believe it or not, you've opened it.

- Chris Cormack, 1992
Source: Mind Moon Circle Quarterly, Autumn 1992, pp.21



Who speaks the sound of an echo?
Who paints the image in a mirror?
Where are the spectacles in a dream?
Nowhere at all -- that's the nature of mind!

- Tantric Buddhist Women's Songs, 8th - 11th c.

The Rockefellers and the heirs to the Firestone and other fortunes funded Alcoholics Anonymous.

Crowley presents a satanic program of recovery from drug addiction. Throughout Diary of a Drug fiend, its publication predating Alcoholics Anonymous by 17 years, there are many themes and phrases, both similar and identical that are also common in “The Big Book” of Alcoholics Anonymous. These themes include “abandoning free will”, “abandoning ones self”, “it’s beyond human power”, “god is beyond conception”, “Do what thou wilt”, “Do with me as thou wilt” etc. The identical ideology of these doctrines is this: free will is useless therefore hand your will over to someone or something else.In turn, Treatment Centers utilizing the Twelve Step method of Alcoholics Anonymous aim to bring about a psychological break in the patient. This psychological break is referred to in Alcoholics Anonymous as a “complete psychological change”. The techniques used by treatment centers to cause a psychological break involve cutting off the patient from his familiar social setting (restricting contact with family and friends) and restricting access to reading material, radio and television. The patient lives in a situation of inferiority and is regularly reproached by his counselor and “group” members for using defense mechanisms (humor, self-pity, anger, etc.). The patient is bombarded with repetitive slogans and phrases. The idea is to create sufficient stress to cause a psychological collapse at which point the patient becomes susceptible to influence. The desired goal is for the patient to abandon free will and to accept the program. The most commonly known term for this form of this process of psychological restructuring is brainwashing

A company that puts out alcoholic music is called Illuminatti Music Productions



I'm a little bit frightened because I think I have a occult conscience. AA does a lot of good, but the meetings are pretty creepy. People chanting the lord's prayer in unison and saying "thanks for sharing" etc.

(at least the scientologists didn't get her like they did katey holms.)




This thing really spins. Just look at it for a little while (or even short while) and see the discs spinning

EZLN is an angel
Yabasta! angels
You'll never be lonely if you have love in yr heart. Let your action do the talking - propaganda by deed


El Despertador Mexicano
Declaration of War

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Articles
Maps and Timeline
Lacondon Jungle
December 31, 1993
TODAY WE SAY ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!
TO THE PEOPLE OF MEXICO:
MEXICAN BROTHERS AND SISTERS:

We are the product of 500 years of struggle: first against slavery, then during the War of Independence against Spain led by insurgents, then to avoid being absorbed by North American imperialism, then to promulgate our constitution and expel the French Empire from our soil, and later the dictatorship of Porfirio Díaz denied us the just application of the Reform Laws, and the people rebelled and leaders like Villa and Zapata emerged, poor people just like us. We have been denied the most elemental preparation so that they can use us as cannon fodder and pillage the wealth of our country. They don't care that we have nothing, absolutely nothing, not even a roof over our heads: no land, no work, no health care, no food, no education. Nor are we able to freely and democratically elect our political representatives, nor is there independence from foreigners, nor is there peace nor justice for ourselves and our children.

But today, we say ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. We are the inheritors of the true builders of our nation. The dispossessed, we are millions, and we thereby call upon our brothers and sisters to join this struggle as the only path, so that we will not die of hunger due to the insatiable ambition of a 70-year dictatorship led by a clique of traitors who represent the most conservative and sell-out groups. They are the same ones who opposed Hidalgo and Morelos, the same ones who betrayed Vincente Guerrero, the same ones who sold half our country to the foreign invader, the same ones who imported a European prince to rule our country, the same ones who formed the "scientific" Porfirista dictatorship, the same ones who opposed the Petroleum Expropriation, the same ones who massacred the railroad workers in 1958 and the students in 1968, the same ones who today take everything from us, absolutely everything.

To prevent the continuation of the above, and as our last hope, after having tried to utilize all legal means based on our Constitution, we go to our Constitution, to apply Article 39, which says:

"National Sovereignty essentially and originally resides in the people. All political power emanates from the people and its purpose is to help the people. The people have, at all times, the inalienable right to alter or modify their form of government."


Therefore, according to our Constitution, we declare the following to the Mexican Federal Army, the pillar of the Mexican dictatorship that we suffer from, monopolized by a one-party system and led by Carlos Salinas de Gortari, the supreme and illegitimate federal executive who today holds power.

According to this Declaration of War, we ask that other powers of the nation advocate to restore the legitimacy and the stability of the nation by overthrowing the dictator.

We also ask that international organizations and the International Red Cross watch over and regulate our battles, so that our efforts are carried out while still protecting our civilian population. We declare now and always that we are subject to the Geneva Accord, forming the EZLN as the fighting arm of our liberation struggle. We have the Mexican people on our side, we have the beloved tri-colored flag, highly respected by our insurgent fighters. We use black and red in our uniform as a symbol of our working people on strike. Our flag carries the following letters, "EZLN," Zaptista National Liberation Army, and we always carry our flag into combat.

Beforehand, we reject any effort to disgrace our just cause by accusing us of being drug traffickers, drug guerrillas, thieves or other names that might by used by our enemies. Our struggle follows the Constitution, which is held high by its call for justice and equality.

Therefore, according to this declaration of war, we give our military forces, the EZLN, the following orders:

First: Advance to the capital of the country, overcoming the Mexican Federal Army, protecting in our advance the civilian population and permitting the people in the liberated area the right to freely and democratically elect their own administrative authorities.

Second: Respect the lives of our prisoners and turn over all wounded to the International Red Cross.

Third: Initiate summary judgments against all soldiers of the Mexican Federal Army and the political police who have received training or have been paid by foreigners, accused of being traitors to our country, and against all those who have repressed and treated badly the civilian population, and robbed, or stolen from, or attempted crimes against the good of the people.

Fourth: Form new troops with all those Mexicans who show their interest in joining our struggle, including those who, being enemy soldiers, turn themselves in without having fought against us, and promise to take orders from the General Command of the EZLN.

Fifth: We ask for the unconditional surrender of the enemy's headquarters before we begin any combat to avoid any loss of lives.

Sixth: Suspend the robbery of our natural resources in the areas controlled by the EZLN.

To the People of Mexico:

We, the men and women, full and free, are conscious that the war that we have declared is our last resort, but also a just one. The dictators have been waging an undeclared genocidal war against our people for many years. Therefore we ask for your participation, your decision to support this plan that struggles for work, land, housing, food, health care, education, independence, freedom, democracy, justice and peace. We declare that we will not stop fighting until the basic demands of our people have been met by forming a government of our country that is free and democratic.

JOIN THE INSURGENT FORCES OF THE ZAPATISTA NATIONAL LIBERATION ARMY!

General Command of the EZLN
December 31, 1993

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Killing for love

THE ANGEL
a poem by William Blake

I dreamt a dream! What can it mean?
And that I was a maiden Queen
Guarded by an Angel mild:
Witless woe was ne'er beguiled!


And I wept both night and day,
And he wiped my tears away;
And I wept both day and night,
And hid from him my heart's delight.


So he took his wings, and fled;
Then the morn blushed rosy red.
I dried my tears, and armed my fears
With ten-thousand shields and spears.


Soon my Angel came again;
I was armed, he came in vain;
For the time of youth was fled,
And grey hairs were on my head.


































Ezra Pound - The Seeing Eye
The small dogs look at the big dogs;
They observe unwieldy dimensions
And curious imperfections of odor.
Here is the formal male group:
The young men look upon their seniors,
They consider the elderly mind
And observe its inexplicable correlations.

Said Tsin-Tsu:
It is only in small dogs and the young
That we find minute observation



Emily Dickinson



I've seen a Dying Eye

Run round and round a Room --

In search of Something -- as it seemed --

Then Cloudier become --

And then -- obscure with Fog --

And then -- be soldered down

Without disclosing what it be

'Twere blessed to have seen --






... resistance to tyranny is man's highest ideal.
Poor America, of what avail is all her wealth, if the individuals comprising the nation are wretchedly poor? If they live in squalor, in filth, in crime, with hope and joy gone, a homeless, soilless army of human prey.
... if the production of any commodity necessitates the sacrifice of human life, society should do without that commodity, but it can not do without that life.
The most absurd apology for authority and law is that they serve to diminish crime. Aside from the fact that the State is itself the greatest criminal, breaking every written and natural law, stealing in the form of taxes, killing in the form of war and capital punishment, it has come to an absolute standstill in coping with crime. It has failed utterly to destroy or even minimize the horrible scourge of its own creation.
Prostitution, although hounded, imprisoned, and chained, is nevertheless the greatest triumph of Puritanism.
As to a thorough eradication of prostitution, nothing can accomplish that save a complete transvaluation of all accepted values—especially the moral ones—coupled with the abolition of industrial slavery.
The right to vote, or equal civil rights, may be good demands, but true emancipation begins neither at the polls nor in courts. It begins in woman's soul
Religion! How it dominates man's mind, how it humiliates and degrades his soul. God is everything, man is nothing, says religion. But out of that nothing God has created a kingdom so despotic, so tyrannical, so cruel, so terribly exacting that naught but gloom and tears and blood have ruled the world since gods began.

This thing got published here

I Saw The Crosses On the Hill
http://htboyfallen.blogspot.com

I saw the crosses on the hill
and I wondered which was there for me
I had already given up trying to free myself from myself
I was trying to find something in my pocket
It was a watch with a broken face
The hands were spinning in a frenzy
I was ashamed
I saw the river coming down in a trickle from atop the hill
The bodies were writhing with the rhythm of the thunder
And how the rain came down
When the sign did melt
I felt my body agape on the hill
I estranged my skin
I was crawling on my exposed nerves
And the grass did grow up rusty

Roger Corman

Rudy Wurlitzer

Legalize Hugging



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My question clarified:

http://rochester.indymedia.org/newswire/display/20757/index.php

Does anyone remember when RPD tased a young girl?

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I was wondering if anyone remembered when the RPD tased a little girl because she supposed had a knife or something. I think she was like 12 or something. I couldn't find anything about it on the internet. Stories like that seem to get lost.

Another side point, does anyone remember Staff Sgt. Alberto Martinez?

There's some info posted here at the URL below.
Anyway, that's another news story that seemed to disappear as soon as it was released.

Related
http://www.commongroundcommonsense.org/forums/index.php?s=6df2e3a85afc75b8083626fa14003354&showtopic=19049&st=1420&


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Re: Does anyone remember when RPD tased a young girl?Current rating: 0
02 Oct 2007
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No, they actually shot the 13 year old girl many times when she supposedly charged a police office w/ a knife. The mother had called 911 because her child had threatened to kill herself.

Even though community activists compelled the RPD to get a task force to especially deal with "emotionally disturbed/mentally ill people" after a previous incident where a grown man was tazed to death after he ran through the now deserted Driving Pk Wegmans in his underwear, yelling "Jesus is Coming."

I forwarded around email asking people to attend press conferences & rallies that a local activist was sponsoring around what happened to that little girl. A local public defender and Metro Justice board member told me that the local progressive community wouldn't work with the activist because she was a "crazy, irrational nig-er." Rochester Indymedia has repeatedly supported and defended that public defender, in fact blaming me for breaking the public defender's "confidence" by sharing the email with others.

After Joyce Powell, the activist in question, threatened a "sit-in" at the public safety building after an elderly lady was killed under similar circumstances, the RPD framed her and convicted her without ANY evidence accept connecting her to an assault, aside from the uncredible testimony of a witness who was in "recovery" from crack-cocaine addiction and was a convicted forger and welfare fraud.

There were many printed stories (and television) about all these cases. Lawrence Rogers, Lashedica Mason and Patricia Thompson, as well as Joyce Powell. I actually met the girl of whom you speak and brought her free groceries from Friends Helping Friends.

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Just for the record:

The author of a personal email has the right to ask us to remove his or her writing if it has been made public against his or her wishes. It is not supporting or defending the contents of an email to oblige that request, but is respecting our site users right to privacy.

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paisley underground

“And it was light on the first day.

The clouds are as white as those in the painting of Christ’s Ascension into Heaven at Sunday school. That was how I saw God when I was a child. As something big, something white, as if God were an empty space above the clouds. Now I don’t often think about God any more, but at that time I’d never been above the clouds, never been in the clouds. I’d always wondered what it would feel like. Standing on the ground with my head tilted, watching the aeroplanes leaving their braided signatures across the sky. Now I know what it feels like. Now I know what it feels like to be in the clouds.

Like nothing. Like death. Like light. Like everything.

Strange that clouds which are so flat from underneath can be rugged peaks above, or perhaps not peaks. It is more like floating through a milky way of cakes. Coconut slices. Pieces of meringue. Stale cream full of lumps. I take it as an omen. America is not a smorgasbord. It is one enormous cake dish.”


Someone's always coming around here
Trailing some new kill
Says "I've seen your picture on a
Hundred-dollar bill"
What's a game of chance to you,
here is one Of real skill

So glad to meet you, Angeles

Picking up the ticket shows there's
Money to be made
Go on, lose the gamble that's the
History of the trade
Did you add up all the cards left to play
To zero

And sign up with evil, Angeles?

Don't start me trying now
Uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh

'Cause I'm all over it, Angeles

I can make you satisfied in
Everything you do
All your secret wishes could right
Now be coming true
And be forever with my poison arms

Around you
No one's gonna fool around with us
No one's gonna fool around with us
So glad to meet'cha, Angeles

The original freak-folk
I was at this show:



Love is a real thing and love is beautiful. Believe in love. Don't make love illegal! PDA's have always been frowned upon in school, but these idiots are terrorists against love!

23rd Turn Off
Marc Bolan
Pearls Before Swine
Josephine Foster
Water Into Wine Band

The new flower children

The universal subconscious is the gateway to psychic communism
God is an anarchist
god is love

These are the last days. The end is near.

Rexroth on Blake, Stendhal and Marx

all that is solid melts into air

The Book of Revelations and the Communist Manifesto are parallel works

The spectre of communism is the four horsemen







Psymatterialist's Mysticism

NATURE AND COMMUNIST REVOLUTION

1. The "ruin of all classes"

The revolutionary communist uses the hypothesis of the revolution not the negative assumption, of which even Marx spoke, of the "ruin of all classes".

This does not mean to say that we deny such a possibility out of hand, it is just, and surely this much is obvious, we can't count on just a simple negation. This is especially so as we are in a phase of history in which bourgeois thinking does everything possible to portray reality as resolvable into 'nothingness': this negation is one of hatred towards life in general, a denigration, with nothing but the crises in life represented.

We have always refused to play the role of mere analysts, or that of aspiring grave diggers or 'decadence'. The attitude of the revolutionary is not to see things in black and white, nor indeed in black alone as occurs among the unhinged ideologies of the contemporary 'strong' and 'weak' schools of thought. The recognition of the dialectical nature of reality excludes sophistical dialectics in that the latter is openly eristic and rhetorical.

The theoreticians of Entropy like to represent natural and social reality as a closed system for conveniences sake, whilst the supporters of 'neutral' science do so supposedly unencumbered by any debt to so-called 'subjectivist intrusions'. In the present work, we still show why we are convinced that it is not a closed system, but is instead a reality which is open and infinite, before which official science is impotent because of its preference for the comfort of the secondary, artificial nature of the laboratory; in other words, nature's negation.

Regarding physiology for instance: it is hunger which sharpens the mind! The spirit depresses it. It is the hungry classes putting pressure on the well-fed which is the motor of history; though this doesn't have to mean that the hungry automatically overthrow the state of the sated ones.

The latter notion is in fact a simplification made by the priests, a banner unfurled from the exalted heights of their millenary experience aiming to put the dominant classes on their guard about the possible dangers! But, precisely because hunger does sharpen the intelligence, the latter cannot then be a natural, spontaneous product. Historical and social experience shows that intelligence, (theory), is equivalent to the mind and brain, that is, dialectically accumulated experience with all its attendant highs and lows. Such accumulation requires an explanation, and we make the assertion that this process is explained by the history of the struggle of classes as outlined by historical and dialectical materialism.

Even when bourgeois ideology, with its more passable geniuses like Nietzsche, discloses the value of physiology and the poverty of the spirit and philosophy, it never moves beyond the individual hero, thereby ending up merely providing a figure who can easily be mystified by shopkeepers unable to understand such acrobatic capers which only a dancer like Nietzsche could achieve... though not without breaking his neck in the process!

Only the historical and dialectical materialism of revolutionary communism can propose the advent of a really profound physiology on a social level, that is, the unitary, non-verbal, spiritual reality which we call Gemeinwesen. "The true human nature is the true Community (Gemeinwesen) of the human being", Marx.


2. The fetish character of the commodity

As far as psychoanalysis is concerned, fetishism is a neurotic pathology which derives from the child's exasperation at being attached to its mother's skirts. In that case then, in what does the fetish character of the commodity consist? To whose skirts has the bourgeoisie been over-attached since childhood? Yes, its plain! those of Mother Nature, not seen in her dialectical expression though, but in her metaphysical and abstract expression.

Thus we have the allegedly natural economic laws of the classical economists (though not the feeble economics of the epigones!) which, despite all evidence to the contrary, sees laws as fundamentally static and insuperable.

The commodity becomes a fetish because the bourgeoisie hypostatizes the "Great Mother", and every time it sees her degraded and caused offence (by its own hand) it claims that to violate her is an impossibility (the immaculate conception). It is as if to say: the commodity is sacred, there is no other alternative.

We have hinted at the pathological and unhealthily neurotic nature of such an attitude, but we must also underline the phenomenological aspects of this state of affairs: in what way exactly does the bourgeoisie hang onto the petticoats of the commodity fetish? We answer that it is in considering the market regime as the boundary and the one instrument for the stabilization of social energies: In actual fact though, because of its congenital incapacity, the market is the negation of the species economy, and the bourgeoisie is incapable of founding a truly great economy that is equivalent to arriving at a genuine physiology – a knowledge of the body – because it renounces the theory of 'corporeality' as they consider it an abstraction. The true knowledge of the body lies in resolving the interchange between mankind-nature according to a reciprocal integration that is equivalent to, in material terms, the "naturalization of man and the humanisation of nature".


3. Mystical Body

On the other hand, past prefigurations of communist societies (classist ones that is!) are ideologically inverted expressions of the need for communism. The allusion to the 'mystical body' (leaving aside the spiritist interpretations of the dominant classes) indicates the requirement, remaining ever unsatisfied, of the species to provide for itself together according to the communist formula "to each according to his needs, from each according to his abilities".

Only communism manages to perceive in the dialectical process of class struggle the necessary lever for the attainment of the regime of social species; a regime in which individual and society form a coherent unity without all the contradictions of bourgeois society and indeed of all class societies. In class societies, the most we can expect is a symbolic communal meal, but not a genuine physiological reality of the mystical body, meaning literally a body which sees without eyes like the Greek Mistes, the soothsayer who sees better than ordinary sighted mortals.


4. Communist mysticism

It follows from this that the one society capable of mysticism is communism.

But far from the jaded interpretation dreamed up by the schools of bourgeois analytical thought, this doesn't signify confusion or undifferentiation, but rather Gemeinwesen, namely order existing in fact (i.e. not abstract order). That is to say, the reality of the species, realised and still expanding, in which life is really capable of producing and reproducing itself according to a plan, not as and end in itself but as an actual way of living. The species is mystical because it is able to see itself without finding a contradiction between the hic et nunc, though more often than not this is taken as meaning the survival of class society and its future as the 'natural' development of its premises, rather than the sun which is yet to rise.

We have always claimed that the one reality which can live this projected kind of life (and tries it out) during the domination of class society, is the party.

Therefore it is in this sense that the party has its own "mysticism" understood in the sense of the ability to see... with closed eyes; its ability to see more than the individual eye of single militants, to live out this way of life in its internal relations.

The party has the advantage of a general and total vision, the party is communism unfolding before our eyes.


5. From the truly great economy to the truly great ecology

From the differentiation of the laws of development of bourgeois society to socialism.

Capitalist society has shown itself incapable of conceiving of a really great economy, it can neither make it happen nor can it locate its dialectical laws, and it is a blasphemy when it claims to be tracing out a plan for a large-scale ecology with the imagery of an alleged 'breath', of a great rhythmical breath that allegedly corresponds to the Sanskrit: to be = to breath = living being which breaths to its fullest extent. Only in communism does high philosophy and being converge into an organic circuit that connects eating (today considered trivial and unworthy of the spirit) with the breath of spirit, conceived sublimely as truly worth of the complete being, that is God.

It is not for nothing that the word God in Italian, 'Dio', is equivalent in etymological terms to living being or one who breathes eternally.


(...)

One of my poems was published here: http://www.purpledream.com/pub71/71232.shtml
Soothsayers are radical
Syracuse peace council organizes huge antiwar demo.
Anarchists were there and still alive.
Oh but red and black are so drab.
Why couldn't the anarchist colors be rainbow? Why did the gays steal it?

Police state:





The Red and Black Scare Is Alive And Well

RPD is antigay

RPD tased a 12 year old girl I'm pretty sure. I couldn't find any articles on it on the internet. Any info? post it here

David Deida
Straightjacket
Richard Zubaty

Christian Humanist
Anarchism and Religion (wiki)
Sufism and the Struggle Within Islam
Church of Spiritual Anarchy

http://propheticheretic.wordpress.com/category/apocalypse/
Evangelical Leftists?

Ephesians 6:12:

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New American Standard Bible (©1995)
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
This is not a wrestling match against a human opponent. We are wrestling with rulers, authorities, the powers who govern this world of darkness, and spiritual forces that control evil in the heavenly world.

King James Bible
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

American Standard Version
For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood, but against the principalities, against the powers, against the world-rulers of this darkness, against the spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places .

Bible in Basic English
For our fight is not against flesh and blood, but against authorities and powers, against the world-rulers of this dark night, against the spirits of evil in the heavens.

Douay-Rheims Bible
For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood; but against principalities and power, against the rulers of the world of this darkness, against the spirits of wickedness in the high places.

Darby Bible Translation
because our struggle is not against blood and flesh, but against principalities, against authorities, against the universal lords of this darkness, against spiritual power of wickedness in the heavenlies.

English Revised Version
For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood, but against the principalities, against the powers, against the world-rulers of this darkness, against the spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.

Tyndale New Testament
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood: but against rule, against power, and against worldly rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in heavenly things.

Weymouth New Testament
For ours is not a conflict with mere flesh and blood, but with the despotisms, the empires, the forces that control and govern this dark world--the spiritual hosts of evil arrayed against us in the heavenly warfare.

Webster's Bible Translation
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

World English Bible
For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood, but against the principalities, against the powers, against the world's rulers of the darkness of this age, and against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.

Young's Literal Translation
because we have not the wrestling with blood and flesh, but with the principalities, with the authorities, with the world-rulers of the darkness of this age, with the spiritual things of the evil in the heavenly places;


I submitted the article below to this page.

ok, this is some heavy biblical-theology shit so infidel-atheist beware. I'm gonna get religious on yalls asses.

The other day I saw John 3:16 written on the wall of a public bathroom stall. It was written in bold, black permanent marker... but then next to it humbly in gray it said "+17" which was significant to me. Here's what John 3:16 says: "GOD so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,
that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have
Eternal LIFE." This is the scripture that many Christians use to scare people into joining their own particular brand of religion because it implies that if you don't believe in the "Son" then you will perish (or go to hell as some of the more sinister sects interpret it). But many people don't read on.
John 3:17 says: "For God did not send his Son into the world
to condemn the world, but to save the world through him."
This scripture is often used to support the doctrine of Universalism - essentially that all will go to heaven because God loves the world and does not judge.
I used this argument with an evangelical one time. But then she incited me to read on. John goes on to say in vs 18 and 19: "He who believes in Him is not judged;
he who does not believe has been judged already,
because he has not believed in the name of the only
begotten Son of God."
This well meaning Christian womyn was saying that other religions are wrong because they do not accept Jesus Christ.
The KJV translates the same passage this way:
"3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil."
John goes on to say:
"3:20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

3:21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God."

John Calvin has this to say on John 3:16: "He has employed the universal term whosoever, both to invite all indiscriminately to partake of life, and to cut off every excuse from unbelievers. Such is also the import of the term world which He formerly used [God so loved the world]; for though nothing will be found in the world that is worthy of the favor of God, yet He shows Himself to be reconciled to the whole world, when He invites all men without exception [not merely 'without distinction'] to the faith of Christ, which is nothing else than an entrance into life."

At a glance it appears as though he is supporting the doctrine of unlimited atonement, but in fact this part leads us to believe otherwise: "He has employed the universal term whosoever... to cut off every excuse from unbelievers."

John Calvin also says of John 1:29 where the "lamb of God takes away the sins of the world": "He uses the word sin in the singular number for any kind of iniquity; as if he had said that every kind of unrighteousness which alienates men from God is taken away by Christ. And when he says the sin of the world, he extends this favor indiscriminately to the whole human race."

Okay, so it appears that in Calvin's belief John was saying that atonement is based on one's faith in Christ, but not based on one's sins. However, John 3:19 and 20 speak of doers of "evil deeds" as not inheriting the blessings of the light.

Ron Rhodes expounds further: "John 3:16 cannot be divorced from verses 14-15, wherein Christ alludes to Numbers 21 with its discussion of Moses setting up the brazen serpent in the camp of Israel, so that if "any man" looked to it, he experienced physical deliverance. In verse 15 Christ applies the story spiritually when He says that "whosoever" believes on the uplifted Son of Man shall experience spiritual deliverance."

Martin Luther had this to say: "Christ is not cruel exactor, but a forgiver of the sins of the whole world....He hath given Himself for our sins, and with one oblation hath put away the sins of the whole world....Christ hath taken away the sins, not of certain men only, but also of thee, yea, of the whole world...Not only my sins and thine, but also the sins of the whole world...take hold upon Christ."

So what of the sins of those who have not heard of the Christ? Are their sins also atoned for by the ransom sacrifice?

Here is an excerpt from the UNIVERSALIST'S BOOK OF REFERENCE 1853 Edition by E.E. GUILD: "Eph. 1:9, 10, "Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure, which he hath purposed in himself: that in the dispensation of the fulness of times, he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth, even in him."

OBJECTION 1. "This gathering in Christ, is spoken only of believers; and no reference is had to any others than believers in him."

ANSWER. Believers are already gathered in Christ, and as the text speaks of this gathering as something which is in process of accomplishment, but will not be consummated until "in the dispensation of the fulness of times," and as none only unbelievers have any need of being gathered in Christ, and as the phrase "things in heaven, and things on earth " was used to signify all created intelligences, hence, the text teaches the final ingathering of all lapsed intelligences in Christ; and reference is had in the text not simply to those who were, or would become, believers in this world, but to all mankind, whether believers or unbelievers...

1 Tim. 4:10, "For therefore we both labor and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, especially of those that believe." By believing that God is the Saviour of all men, the believer enjoys a special salvation which the unbeliever knows not of. But God could not be said to be the special Saviour of the believer, unless he is the Saviour of all mankind. For, if God is the Saviour of none but believers, there would be nothing special about their salvation; that is, nothing by which it would be distinguished from the salvation of anybody else, as nobody else would be saved."

So according to Universalist theology God will destroy all His enemies and the last enemy will be death. After death is destroyed then all are saved, but the believers will inherit a special kind of salvation that the unbelievers will not be eligable for.

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